Saturday, June 18, 2005

Durbin Does Disaster Recovery

(KRT) - Trying to quell an ongoing furor, Sen. Dick Durbin partially apologized Friday for remarks he made on the Senate floor this week comparing American treatment of prisoners at the Guantanamo Bay detention center to the tactics of murderous regimes.

"I have learned from my statement that historical parallels can be misused and misunderstood," Durbin, D-Ill., said in a written release. "I sincerely regret if what I said caused anyone to misunderstand my true feelings: Our soldiers around the world and their families at home deserve our respect, admiration and total support."

Durbin has been on the receiving end of an onslaught of criticism from the White House, from Republican colleagues in the Senate, from conservative media stars such as Rush Limbaugh and from voters.

That criticism was sparked by a lengthy floor speech Durbin delivered late Tuesday in which he took the administration to task for its mistreatment of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. Durbin read aloud from an FBI agent's detailed e-mail complaining about the "torture techniques" visited upon one al-Qaida prisoner.

That e-mail described how the agent entered interview rooms to find "a detainee chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food or water. Most times they had urinated or defecated on themselves and had been left there for 18 to 24 hours or more. On one occasion, the air conditioning had been turned down so far and the temperature was so cold in the room that the barefooted detainee was shaking with cold."

Durbin read the contents of the FBI agent's report and then denounced the treatment of prisoners.

"If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags or some mad regime - Pol Pot or others - that had no concern for human beings," Durbin said.

Those words caused the White House press secretary to call the senator's remarks "reprehensible." Limbaugh said Durbin should resign in disgrace and urged people to call his office.

Initially, Durbin refused to back down even as the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Sen. John Warner, R-Va., said Durbin had demonstrated "a grievous error in judgment."

"This administration should apologize to the American people for abandoning the Geneva Conventions and authorizing torture techniques that put our troops at risk and make Americans less secure," Durbin said Thursday.

But by late Friday afternoon, Durbin's office put out a new statement with a tone of some contrition.

"We had so many questions and so many Republican senators and now the commentators had said this was a Durbin attack on the troops, and he wanted to clarify that that was not the case," said his spokesman, Joe Shoemaker.

Still, Durbin took pains to point out he still has a problem with the way the administration has handled its prisoners of war.

"More than 1,700 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq, and our country's standing in the world community has been badly damaged by the prison abuses at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo," Durbin said, referring to abuses at a prison in Iraq as well as the facility in Cuba. "My statement in the Senate was critical of the policies of this administration which add to the risk our soldiers face."

And, said Durbin, "I will continue to speak out when I disagree with this administration."

Tracey Schmitt, a spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee, described Durbin's expression of regret as "a positive step."

Still, she said, "It's troubling that the knee-jerk reaction of Democrats in Washington is to lash out with vile rhetoric without any consideration of the consequences. The American people deserve more from their leaders."

From the Macon Telegraph.

2 comments:

garat_jax said...

"This is the type of thing you would expect from a repressive regime. This is not the type of thing you would expect
from the United States."

When you make that kind of statement, is sounds like you are agreeing with Durbin. In the article that you
referenced on your site, it said that the words [Durbin said] 'caused the White House press secretary to call
the senator's remarks "reprehensible."'

The words in question being:

"If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to
prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in
their gulags or some mad regime - Pol Pot or others - that had no concern for human beings,"

But isn't that the case? He was refering to the email that he had just read (according to that article).
Isn't finding a prisoner "chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food or
water. Most times they had urinated or defecated on themselves and had been left there for 18 to 24 hours
or more. On one occasion, the air conditioning had been turned down so far and the temperature was so cold
in the room that the barefooted detainee was shaking with cold." in such a condition considered against
human rights?

I would hope, if I was a u.s. soldier (thank god I'm not) that I would not be treated so poorly if I was
captured.

If he had said that was how the prisoners (if there were any) taken by Al Queda (sp?) were being
treated, wouldn't you be agreeing with him and preaching against the terrorists. But in this case, because
he is speaking against the man (government) that you seem to follow blindly, you have to disagree with him?

I don't know, perhaps I am not seeing this issue in the same light as you are. That's why I am curious to
hear why you feel the way you do.

And if you could help me out, and not just answer by saying that he in unamerican, and somewhat address
the issue that he was dealing with, the mistreatment of prisoners as laid out in the FBI email, that
would be very helpful.

It seems that (according to that article) the only problem people are having with his speech is the above statement
in which he compares present day american prisoner treatment tactics to some regimes that are not viewed
in any positive light. Could it be possible (bear with me) that perhaps he is right? That the treatment that
these prisoners in guantanamo bay, some of whom have been held for years without any charges laid against them,
might be compareable to the treatment of prisoners that those regimes practiced?

What about in Abu Ghraib? There has already been proven cases of abuse, and I am sure that the abuse soldiers
took pictures of don't even come close to the ones that they thought twice about before pressing the
shutter release (that means they were a hell of a lot more demeaning/sadistic, but that is just speculation,
there are no pictures).

BobG said...

All I'm going to say is this.
The following is a direct quote from Durbin as I referenced in my posting with the word Quote above it and his name beneath it. He said it, not me.
"This is the type of thing you would expect from a repressive regime. This is not the type of thing you would expect
from the United States."